THE END

Waiting for scan version

Thanks. This scan while small it's better than what I found.
Open end for a final chapter. Supposedly, the tankoubon scheduled for October will have another chapter that might conclude the story.

I'll PM Triple777 to he can start with the script until a better raw comes out.

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Good riddance.

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@stivhoppkins74
I said might.
For the rest, go the other gallery, you'll understand why.

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Is she pregnant?

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@Wilfriback

page 1 Gin just propose to Setsuna when they are child,then at page 2 Setsuna ask the teacher can they get marry if she is pregnant
seems my infomation get something wrong

Setsuna's home environment is bad than my thougt

the だった at the title is a polysemant,no one know wat it is now,its a puzzle

@Silkbandit

ch.1,page 8
yes she is

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So in the end, it just went full circle and nothing was resolved. Ugh. I hate open endings like this. Hope there's a proper epilogue.

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@Ooe Kintarou
No, she doesn't. The sex pages happen before graduation, for some reason they were placed in between the dialogue, kind of understandable as 15 of them are full dialogue.

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@Ooe Kintarou

get marry after graduation,like to satisfy her

and Setusna find she is pregnant seems in graduation so the teacher dont know about it

the last 3 page is talking about when they are child
Gin told Setsuna just tell him if she get troubles so he can help her

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Well, at least she and Gin become a couple in the end... Until Gin can't satisfy her anymore and she goes back to her sensei. I want to see a "After" chapter like Carn's Tomoyo. She can probably get an abortion for the baby.

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作者又画NTR……胃疼

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Gin, you need to run bro. This is what happens if Gin stays with her: 5 years from now she buys discount items for dinner at the market. Some guy takes a picture of her buying discount items. Guy blackmails her into sex for buying discount items and she's pregnant again. This is about as convincing as the basis for this story.

Don't they have plan B or abortions in Japan?

I need to become a teacher in Japan. Apparently you can have sex with the students with impunity.

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@NoPityy
No, that's her when she was a child.

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@NoPityy
1. The first panel literally has her name on it.
2. If you paid attention pages later Gin gives her the pin.
3. That's her before graduation, and indeed is a school uniform.
4. Kuroki IS old as fuck.

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@Stark1ller
Rape fantasies. Is a common trope among female authors.

Last edited on 07 September 2016, 15:22.

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After reading some other comments here and finding out that the author is a woman, suddenly this story makes sense. A girl gets to have a boatload of sex with an older, experienced man, and then some other sucker gets to help her raise the baby.

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I don't get it, is she the long haired girl or the short haired girl or is that a flash back? The last few pages certainly seem to be flash backs.

@Wilfriback

Likely has more to do with the taste of the targeted audience. You have a lot of female authors who do male wish-fulfillment and harem too, gotta give the people who put food on the table what they want. Yuzuki N Dash has a lot of vanilla and harem himself/herself and his/her netorare are actually quite lite, this one is the heaviest and darkest of the bunch.

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@Ooe Kintarou
He is. Come on, how can you fall for that joke?

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pfft im not even surprised about this vague ending she did more or less the same with another world, only shiba san had a conclusive ending, wtf its as she is taking lesson from those korean author with their shitty ending, its obvs not her genre, she should go back writhing bro/sis incest storys

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@Gambit1966

I’m speculating... usually in Manga & Anime when a character is drawn like that (not showing her eyes) it is not always the case but the majority of times the characters are hiding his/her intentions/emotions (lying, fear, Yandere, snapped, etc.) that is why I said that, but then again this is all speculating at the moment. Or maybe she is void or emotion (drawn that way) because she realized that being pregnant by sensei was the final straw for her returning to a normal life style after graduating (maybe she was thinking that by not being at school she was not going to see sensei again and resume his normal life keeping that incident in the past [knowing sensei I think that would be impossible unless Gin intervenes]) and have a possibility to date Gin... I would have preferred seeing her let a tear or two out to get a better understanding of what was she was thinking in that moment...

Guess we have to wait for the translation of this chapter and the October compilation to know what Yuzuki is going to do to conclude the story if that is what she has planned and by that I mean if she truly wants to have an ending to this story...

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btw guys, i just noticed chapter 1 seems connected to this one... is it by chance, chapter 1 is after this chapter?

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Well that was expected since chp1 I knew it would be this type of story in which the beginning is the ending especially when she grabbed her stomach. Only thing I still don't know is if she was going to tell him the truth or make it seem as if its his kid.

@AntarisSK2 yes ch1 is the real end you can see her about to hit him with the graduation diploma in p26

Last edited on 08 September 2016, 02:34.

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我去，女主果然是有了。

我去，女主果然是有了。

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the first page is missing although not really matter the story

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top 3 lessons of the story

1) not all childhood friends end up together usually they always end up with diffrent people instead(slice of life lesson)

2) every decision you make will always affect not only you but others as well..

3) not because you didn't end up with the one you love, doesn't mean the end of the world. opens up a new one for better opportunities....

hey least we can anticipate is an extra chapter or an omake or a .2 version where:

A. setsuna aborts the baby and live there life with gin but only NTR him behind his back

B.Gin hears the truth and accepts reality that he could never have Setsuna..

C.Gin becomes the loser. accepts the baby for his(whether he learns the truth or not ) and setsuna NTR's him for sensei's dick

either way for me it's probably A or C the way the story gose... if we get an Extra
gin can alway get to tomoe... if it doesn't work with tomoe

in cht 1 pg 6 gin said he'd regret it if he didn't say it that he loves her (that probably means he's got other plans already or planning to leave for college)
in this chapter 7 Pg 9 Gin already suspected that setsuna's going out with somebody already but isn't sure....

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This is terrible ending for gin.

Hope extra will make me clear about story

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Well, author confirmed Tankoubon to be released Octubre 7th will feature a 4 pages sequel. I fail to see how 4 pages will solve the story, actually I wouldn't be surprised if Yuzuki gives no fucks and just puts Setsuna fucking Kuroki post chapter 1 just to spite at her readers. I hope I'm wrong because I still have some faith on Yuzuki after all these years of this mediocre story.

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Cuck garbage is cuck garbage.

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Her stories lately reminds me of those stupid dramas old wifes fawn over.....guess she's getting older?

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@Bamioum

Maybe she has cable and has a subscription to Lifetime (TV network) and Univision but the thing is those heroines are more intelligent or her choices are far better than this Heroine…

Joking aside maybe by you statement "guess she's getting older" is something to take into consideration people change as well as her/his taste/like in life...

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I blame the Mugen Tensei editorial, a competent editor wouldn't have allowed this shitty plot to be this longer than one chapter.

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@Wilfriback

Well in that regard I agree with you the whole span of this 7-chapters like I said previously feels like a one shot but the thing is there are some one shot of this genre that are far more cohesive than this 7-chapter story...

But the thing I don’t understand or wont comprehend assuming that your speculation is true even if a Mangaka with the status of Yuzuki N Dash showed me a crappy scrip me as his editor or supervisor would made some suggestions to make this story shorter or better. Know the opposite can be said here maybe the editorial team made her do this uninspired work or made her change the scrip... but all of this fall into assumptions. Heck maybe she really changed her style for monetary reasons or because she was bored of making lovey-dovey Manga…

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@wilfriback
plot? the only thing i see its a retardet girl getting continues raped, humiliated and abused for 6 ch, even that other garbage work of her had more plot then this shit.

@Ooe Kintarou
dunno if she is changing her style but in the new magazin it seems there is a oneshot btw bro/sis, its more like most her storys on mujin have a dark ton, aside from a few one.
But unlikely the other one this one is really meh.

Last edited on 03 October 2016, 16:04.

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@Gambit1966

As much as it sucks when there is a story to be told it's plot. I deal with it, do it you too.

Yeah, it's an incest story one shot.

Just pray the 4p epilogue manages to salvage this mess.

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@Gambit1966

The problem with me is not the content, this is an NTR story it would be crazy to not expect this type of content (Dumb girl, some guy for NTR, nice guy gets the short end of the stick, yada, yada) the problem like I stated (I feel like a broken record) is that for a Mangaka of the caliber of Yuzuki I expected to be a character driving story but this was a sex driving story (What are you talking this is a hentai what did you expect?! Lol!) in the sense that the NR guy did appear in the panels unless it was a sex scenes (aside from getting an easy prey I didn’t got to know him as a villain) the nice guy was shown in the last chapter suspecting that she may be having a relationship with another person, the Heroine aside from wanting to be the bride of Gin and the sex and a last minute childhood background in this chapter we didn’t know about her goals in life (did she planned to go to college? did she planned to pursue a professional career in swimming? [Seme Danjou (Mashiraga Aki) Musa] is an example of what I'm talking in the sense of losing a dream or a goal) you know the things that usually the heroine is going to sacrifice for being the slave/cumdump/nymphomaniac of the bad guy… and that plot-holes a 4 pages epilogue in my humble opinion would not turn around this story to left me satisfied with any kind of conclusion…

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i guess this is a new picture: http://blog-imgs-89.fc2.com/m/a/j/majimougen/0161004a5SATb152.jpg
from: http://blog-mougenda.com/blog-entry-3389.html

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Tank is out. And the only value it has its that 4p epilogue bait.
@Deathinteresse
I can't see the text well from that picture on my phone but I can see Setsuna(?) is thanking Tomoe for something. However isn't enough for me to tell the outcome. Hope someone shares those 4 pages.

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Yeah.
It's a time skip.

I read some second hand spoilers that say this:
- Tomoe visits Setsuna.
- She looks tired/hopeless.
- They have a a talk about the past.
- Setsuna out of guilt didn't stay with Gin but also didn't tell him anything either.
- Kuroki, as we expected, didn't take responsibility and make her abort instead (they didn't see each other afterwards, to me is more like dumped her).
- She lives alone since then, judging by her clothes she has a cheap job. (Holy shit, what a way to ruin a promising sporty tomboy)
- Tomoe says she should talk with Gin, implied he still loves her.

That's all I got and it doesn't says more because they are monopolizing the end and there might be false spoilers. But the picture posted above coincides.

Last edited on 06 October 2016, 23:13.

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@Deathinteresse

Thanks for the links! ^_^

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Tomoe looks mighty fine with long hair!

Man if what Wilfriback said is true in his second hand spoilers Tomoe is once again proving that she is a great person & friend by keeping in touch with Setsuna and still giving her advice… Setsuna felt remorse albeit too little too late but it gives her a chance to move on with her life but what I see in the picture and what Wil said (if this stay true) she is living a though life. Kuroki by not going unpunished he is still loose and may repeat the deed with another girl... and Gin well, we will see as soon as the book is posted…

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@Gambit1966
I think they'll go for the bittersweet ending.

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@romanriquelme

Yeah, I agree with what you said you can grow as a person if you learn from your mistakes in life… it is a shame that we can’t see more of what you describe story wise because the epilogue is only 4 pages, the rest is going to be fill the blank of the story with our imagination…

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After reading the last episode, to review the first episode, and everything becomes clear.
I am not inclined to imagine the story will have a happy ending or the adverse, or participate the feelings of protagonists.
That is Yuzuki N Dash's work which always has a disconsolate story. Why not just happy fapping? I love Yuzuki's sluts.

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[Edited on Oct 15]

Well, I have read the Epilogue in the tankoubon. There is not an ending-like ending.
And some kind the spoilers by @Wilfriback were not correct.

After years, Setsuna met Tomoe and due to their conversation the after story can be inferred as:
1. Kuroki transferred to a new job place and Setsuna went with him.
2. The affairs that Kuroki had gone in for other school girls had been discovered and he was arrested.
3. After this, Setsuna moved to rural place with her mother and GAVE BIRTH TO THE CHILD of she and Kuroki.
4. She took a job and was bringing up the baby.
5. She thought she had mis-recognized the feeling to Kuroki as "love". (黒木先生が好き… のが間違っていた)
6. Setsuna out of guilt didn't stay with Ginta but also didn't tell him anything either. (Copied from Wilfriback. This is correct.)
7. Tomoe said she did not tell Ginta where Setsuna living in, but she suggested Setsuna to have a meet with him.
8. Setsuna lived to regret that why she did not tell Ginta her feeling at the beginning.
9. Tomoe said "I'd loved you."(ずっと好きだった) and Setsuna said "Me, too."

Yep, as the proverb said, it is no use crying best spilt milk.
Yuzuki sometimes writes a so realistic tragedy.

Hope Yuzuki will write a vanilla next.

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[Edited on Oct 17]

P.S.:
3½. Somewhat it seems that Setsuna's parents were divorced and she had even not told her father she had a baby.
4½. Setsuna even felt good that she had a new family member (家族が増えてよかった), even though the child is by a jerk.

Sometimes you knew it was stupid, but you had run it ahead and had been apologetic after the fact.
That is what the realistic tragedy.

Last edited on 17 October 2016, 15:27.

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trad please

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@zz0165
Thanks for the resume of the epilogue...

@techrose
I agree but with this development the guy at least have a chance to move on with a girl who can truly depend on him and love him back…

@kilua7679
I can see her as a victim to some extent but what zz0165 & Wilfriback said in their description of the epilogue she didn’t tell Gin the truth the guy who pledge to help her if ever she encounter trouble... and she by staying with that bastard was an accomplice...
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This ending in my opinion fit with the story that Yuzuki wrote (even if I personally felt a lack in character development and wasn’t her best work) a Setsuna x Gin ending at this point would felt like an @ss pull. Her body language that she made in the first chapter (they were far from each other as soon they ended the sex act and was trembling with remorse when she said Yeah, I always loved you too) followed by the chapters that show her decent and this last chapter that showed her being pregnant didn’t convince me of her staying by Gin side it is a bad end for Setsuna but she makes the choice to stay with that scumbag and also made the choice to not told the truth to Gin...

Again if what zz0165 posted stay the same, the only positive thing that this ordeal has is that Sensei is paying for his crimes and Setsuna didn’t shackle Gin by making him raise another man child letting him go understanding that she didn’t rely on him (to stop the abuse) and that she didn’t have the courage to tell him what happen to her and knowing Gin he wouldn’t have discarded Setsuna because her predicament (trust in your partner is key in a relationship) that is why he didn’t deserve that kind of fate. Now he can move on and she also can move on dedicating her life to that child who did nothing wrong.

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@zz0165
Thanks a lot.

For the first time on Yuzuki N's works the bastard gets punished, I know there is no more than text about that but it's something the author owed us for years (maybe people called on her bullshit and she heard them, I know she doesn't answers much but is easy to tell when she pays attention to her followers).

If point 2 is accurate doesn't this means there was a scandal about that? It wasn't just Setsuna but other girls before her, Setsuna was just the dumb one of all them.
Gin should have heard of this but since she dumped him he must believe Setsuna loves Kuroki and chose him over himself.

Point 5 is bullshit, at which point she decided it was love when during the whole series she literally admitted it was lust between her and Kuroki caused by his training?

Oh, so point 9 that was a spoiler? I thought the page I read was just being cheesy saying the series tittle at the end. How lame hahaha.

I know that Gin feels in the dark but also this was for the best.
Setsuna isn't just an awful friend but also would have been an awful wife, just imagine her keeping her mouth shut about being raped and not telling it to her very own husband while carrying her rapist's child. No thank you. I refuse to acknowledge this story or at least the coercion used on Setsuna as realistic it hits my suspension of disbelief.

It might have been sad for Gin this might have been the best outcome for them. Setsuna doesn't deserves him so she should just stop projecting her guilt and regrets on Gin and move on for good. The guy deserves that at least I won't lie, it bothers me he didn't get to be with Tomoe. What about her, did he give on him like that? It's her chance.

Ending just half solved the story but I take it over the inconclusive ending Another World had. The last chapter was quite rushed and cramped every character development making it awkward which is why it was so short on sex scenes (13 out of 30 pages)
Overall nice looking design and sex as expected of Yuzuki but also a poor planned story despite having about 3.5 years.
Good for anyone who loves how an heroine falls slowly but for dumb reasons which makes good for a soap drama but makes the NTR feeling be very weak as it had few development dedicated to it. Just when the series ends Gin realises he actually liked her, confesses and gets rejected in the end because the girl was too dumb to realise he always would have been on her side no matter what and was in deep shit with Kuroki.

Looking forward to her next long story, but not expectant as she is drawing Mahouka manga and this means more breaks for her to release hentai chapters.

Last edited on 17 October 2016, 13:53.

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@Ooe Kintarou
She is going to be an awful mother, she never matured as an adult, just look how dependent on Tomoe is after all that time.

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@Wilfriback

>Dumb girl
Just quoting a comment on Amazon:「頭の弱い馬鹿女が生きる価値の無い下衆野郎に人生を狂わされただけの話。」("It is just like something that the life of a dumb stupid girl was ruined by an unworthy-of-living sucker.") Yes, so dumb the girl. I think it is the main reason why someone feels so uncomfortable about the story.

>About Point 5
However, it is not my speculation. The original lines on the epilogue just like that Setsuna said "I thought it was wrong that I had loved Kuroki-sensei." Some evidence likes if she had not loved Kuroki (even if mis-recognized), she would not go with him after his job transferring, I think.

>Cheesy End
It occupies the last cut. I regard this merely as a shtik otherwise it would be much confusing.

Last edited on 17 October 2016, 15:25.

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@kilua7679
Don’t worry you are doing fine(English) about that she in my opinion she started to remember Gin a little too late (in this chapter #7) and I understand her remorse she gave everything to sensei even her love (going by what zz0165 escribed in the talk with Tomoe) even if she was confused we cannot undermine it was all of her Choice
1.Se protected a rapist
2 She never sleeked help (Tomoe or Gin)
3.She enjoyed the sex
4. She was the one who distanced from Gin
5.She decided to have the baby
6.Se started to live with sensei

Frankly speaking this girl didn’t deserve a happy ending Setsuna as soon as she decided to go with sensei she already move on from Gin. Her regret in my opinion comes from choosing the wrong person and aside from that encounter at Gin house she may never know how it is feel to be loved by someone (heck reviewing that sex scene in chapter #1 she looked like she didn’t enjoyed that at all [in the sense that he was trying to make love to her but she was feeling confused and regret, he was crying and I think that wasn’t tears of joy])... however that doesn’t mean that I don’t feel sorry for her...

@ Wilfriback
I dont disagre with that...
But she chooses to be a mother by discarding everything else she better be or it is going to be a repeat of her mother situation and her situation about not having a whole family she has to break every chain (the cycle) or that child is destined to repeat those steps... She needs to channel that love into her child...

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One thing about her falling in love with sensei. even if she was confused or not she started to blush whenever he listens to her (the not doing it any more at school) the I like you by sensei and she even liked when every time he was saying she was cute... they even have a date (the time he was shopping with her and the sex toy shop), she liked the way he kissed her, heck she even cooked a meal for him (all of this chapter #6) even if she dint have the intention of doing that... they were doing what lovers/couple would do (dating) and then when she misunderstood the confession she surrender herself to him literally & metaphorically speaking (chapter #7) and that is why she felt regret and think she don’t deserved Gin (Gin had an opportunity to go out with a beauty and he chose not to because he loved Setsuna) we can see the two sides of this spectrum.

1.Gin waited for her he treated her like a girl since they were children (gave her pin and promised to marry her) he didn’t have any indication that he was in danger of losing her until chapter #7 (the confession from Tomoe made Gin realize that is about time that he convey her feeling to her and he tried but she distanced from him [because misunderstanding])...
2. Setsuna decide to let go of herself even way back in the earlier chapter when Kuroki-sensei said to her "pin all the blame to him" at let go her lust and start enjoying the sex… She betrayed her love for him and herself more than once.

Last edited on 18 October 2016, 02:08.

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@Ooe Kintarou
But she DID enjoy having sex with Gin, making lewd faces and all that distractin herself enough to forget the reality while it lasted, but later came the guilt. That's obvious from Chapter 1.

Also, she herself doesn't understands what love is about, I doubt she would be able to protect her own child from similar circummstances and to make it worse she won't do a thing about it even she knew unless it involved the idiotic "Do me instead of my daughter" while she is still is being raped/trained behind her back without questioning it.
Btw, I think that's what Stockholm is about, despite what Kuroki did she developed empathy towards him.

@zz0165
No, I'm not saying you lied but the writing logic.
That's why this story feels lacking regarding Setsuna. She is way too accepting of what happens to her, doesn't tries to do something for herself nore tries to do something for the people she claims to love. If other girl like lets say Tomoe was raped too Setsuna is very likely to become a silent accomplice of Kuroki's crimes.
Wait, in fact she IS an accomplice of Kuroki's crimes, based on what it's said about Kuroki she fucking about other girls and he even might have been still doing it with her knowing of that.

This is my problem with the story, there is no way to build empathy towards her character and this comes from someone who somehow managed to like Subaru from Re:Zero after all of his fuck ups for half of its full run.

I'm actually glad to see the reviews on Amazon aren't letting Yuzuki have it easy with such messy writing regarding Setsuna.
The drama for me was her life as a trainwreck: You as reader know she is going to crash, Setsuna knows she is going to crash however despite having multiple chances to step on the brakes she somehow manages to make it worse by stepping further on the accelerator.

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@Wilfriback

A train wreck, yes, that is what I have said, a realistic tragedy. Since she put forward making bento for Kuroki, she had been going to mix up something. Love and luxuriation. On the other hand, to consider it is a story of a stupid girl so that everything will be not that surprising. (wry smile) I think it is quite reasonable (= It is OK for me), however, I acknowledge that I am disinclined to consider Yuzuki's works deeply, besides the "nice looking design and sex" what we have expected. In fact, by other comments on Amazon the book is highly appreciated and according to Yuzuki's twitter, nevertheless less than half a month since published, it is going to be republished. Apparently most of her readers are knowing how to enjoy her dark side works and accustomed to the suck men, stupid girls and badly-conceived plots in her works. (wry smile)

Despite any serial works without inception, at least her next article on MUJIN is a general elder sister story (lit.: "普通のあねもの") that everyone is able to enjoy.

Last edited on 18 October 2016, 07:03.

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@ Wilfriback

She did enjoy it alright... but in my opinion she didn’t enjoy at her full capabilities... all of her feelings were like you said a distraction to forget reality and that to me isn’t fully enjoying sex especially with a love one it like a more one-sided act than a couple sharing an intimate moment...

One question that Wilfriback or zz0165 can answer if you are kind enough... Kuroki was caught because of some past girl denounce him or a future incident because if the answer is a future incident then Setsuna unintentionally or not is an accomplice and all of my sympathy for her is thrown out of the window (if that the case that he was caught in the future)… then she truly is irredeemable (she let other girls experience the hell she was put trough)...

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@zz0165
Not really. Mujin doesn't prints that much copies as far I know because lately they haven't had good selling books with dark themes. Therefore mujin comic followers of the dark genre and ntr followers who were starving for new material for a decent read are there on the wait, this was like a well in their desert.

I know of that sister work, very femdom.

@Ooe Kintarou
It was no diifferent from the sex she had with Kuroki to make her distract herself from the guilt.

@kilua7679
She made her own hell with her own misunderstandings and being a coward, without them Gin would have even confessed earlier sue to them spending more time together instead of being distanced due to her being with Kuroki whenever he wanted to.
Since the story is about her and her POV it's more about her not cherishing what she had until it was too late in her life.
Edit: The problem is that she make things go from bad to worse, she helped her rapist instead of helping herself.

Last edited on 18 October 2016, 03:31.

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@Ooe Kintarou
It was not mentioned in the epilogue. I think they were past activities since Setsuna's story happened in a quite short time which less than one year. However, either they were or not, the other school girls or Setsuna could be considered as an accomplice. On this problem, I agree with @kilua7679. To consider how many cases about sexual or violent crime have not been revealed every year, I am not inclined to take things in an easy way. For what the story represented we can figure Setsuna or the other girls somehow stupid girls or cowards, but she or they should not be censured.

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@Wilfriback
Femdom. (HAHAHA) Have you had a chance to read the whole story? Yes, it seems like a dominatrix for the only pages I have known of but I do think Yuzuki will write this type of works as the protagonist will finally feel happy and satisfied with his elder sister, like Green Eyes which my fancy. I am looking forward to read the whole story. (LOL)

Last edited on 18 October 2016, 07:26.

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@kilua7679

Man like I said you are doing mighty fine with your english...

I see your point of her being a victim and you made great counters the only thing that I don’t agree with you is when you said Gin confessed too late (he confessed too late because the only opportunity the heroine Setsuna gave him was when the two of them were alone in his house) the other time showed to us through the story she was f*uckin sensei or when Gin approached her she slapped his hand, after Gin rejected Tomoe confession, he was in the classroom looking at her and he made a move he put her hand in her shoulder and started a conversation (trying to initiate something) and Setsuna shut him down, again the only time he got in was in his house and then ofcoures it ws to late she was already stockholm syndrome for sensei + pregnant... but my responses to you is to try to see my point (not agree with me) of view about the heroine…

1.Se protected a rapist
>>No matter what ,Kuroki is out of her life. The most important in her life is baby , not Gin or Kuroki .
My response: And I'm glad that she found a pillar to her life (baby) but that doesn’t excuse her for not trying…
2 She never sleeked help (Tomoe or Gin)
>>There have lot of reason describe in Ch.2
My response: Yeah, he said he has influence and Yada, yada... but the girl who reported the crime didn’t care about that... Setsuna was/is a weakling...
3.She enjoyed the sex
>>All roles in Yuzuki story enjoyed the sex . Setsuna also enjoy sex with Gin
My response: In the content that this is a Hentai of course... what I tried to say it that sex with sensei at that moment were more important than being saved, her friend Tomoe or his loved one Gin thus creating a gap between them.
4.She was the one who distanced from Gin
5.She decided to have the baby
4&5 >>Gin confessed his love too late . Actually Setsuna still hope to marry with Gin in CH.6
Rape,misunderstand,lot of reason make her desperation & have mis-recognized feeling to Kuroki especially pregnant .In Ch1 we can see that Setsuna touch her belly & have a sad face.
My response: I'm going to quote Wilfriback (he/she posted the things that I was going to reply to you) She made her own hell with her own misunderstandings and being a coward, without them Gin would have even confessed earlier sue to them spending more time together instead of being distanced due to her being with Kuroki whenever he wanted to.
6.Se started to live with sensei
>>Of course , She have mis-recognized feeling & pregnant (maby have other consideration). Lot of victim have the same choice .
My response: That is why I said earlier in my post to you "even if she was confused we cannot undermine it was all of her Choice"

And again by me saying or pointing all the flaws of the heroine does not means that I don’t feel sorry for her…

Look I understand that the story needed to follow an unavoidable path to fulfil the requirement of the genre or the vision of the author and I by discussing this I'm not trying to deny that... Look at it this way - I’m in a bar hanging out with friends and we are discussing what is trending at the moment & sharing or likes and dislikes. I really like to hear different opinions to see if we share somethings in common or if we disagree but respected our different point of views…

@zz0165
Thanks, Man!
Fair enough....

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@kilua7679

Even if it was on Saturdays & Sundays she avoided Gin in the weekends because of that... she started to feel uncomfortable around him (she was felling embarrassed) Tomoe was the first to notice that change in her + the misunderstanding of the confession of Tomoe to Gin, she avoided him completely…

But I guess in this topic we have to agree to disagree. ^_^

You said:
I am wonder.....Tomoe always know that Setsuna like Gin.
So,when she hear Setsuna story & hear that Kuroki was arrested.
Does she guess that Setsuna was a victim too ? Or Setsuna tell her all the truth?
But Yuzuki dose not wrote anything about it......

>>Well I thought that all of Setsuna flashback chapter 2-7 was her telling the truth/what happened to her to Gin but by what fellow users had said in their epilogue synopsis (she never told Gin the truth) I think that the whole story is Setsuna telling Tomoe what happened to her. That is why she told her to go and have a talk to Gin (implying he would have understand her situation)…

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@kilua7679

I don’t think Tomoe would tell what he knows about Setsuna (she is the Big-sis type) maybe she sugest to him to meet her the same thing she did to Setsuna. That is why Tomoe didn’t tell Gin were Setsuna is living (according to the user’s epilogue synopsis) she really respects her and I think she think the appropriate thing is for Setsuna to tell Gin what happen to her for her to move on in her life...

To be honest I would like for Gin to move on and have a go with another girl... in this sense I liked this ending (if you can call this an ending) Setsuna & Gin going their separate ways is a more natural/realistic end after the whole story unfold...

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Btw, the missing page was uploaded.

Alas Setsuna's mother was the source of her insecurities as female.

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so did i got it right and the title refers to the last line of Tomoe.

@Wilfriback
she is drawing mahouka thought that pics on her twitter was only some bonus draw ? i thought she is doing that new serie on champion red

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@Gambitt1966
Its an adaptation of an arc known as Summer Vacation of Mahouka.

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@ Wilfriback
ah i see that was volume 5 if i recall

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@everyone
sorry guys just need to clarify something, this is for Setsuna's sake alright about the part of her being an accomplice in Kuroki's new victim.

Alright she started living with the F@cker after being pregnant, at some point her belly started growing because of her pregnancy.
The F@cker probably felt sorry (highly unlikely maybe it was because she lost her sex appeal after her belly grew bigger, the F@cker probably didn't like banging pregnant women)
At which he started looking for other girls in his new transferred school and apparently he found one but wasn't so lucky and got arrested all the while Setsuna was at home not knowing the F@cker tried pulling a few moves again.

Setsuna and Gin meet again I do hope Gin understands her after she tells him everything. Hopefully awakening something in Gin after such a long time and have a somewhat happy ending if the two got together.

In the end I still wish for Setsuna's happiness and I really empathize with this character and honestly i was hoping for an ending somewhat similar to the Shiba san ura no kao one of Yuzuki's previous works

insecurities and misunderstandings can cause hardships in life and this is the baddest it could get.

Yuzuki probably wanted to emphasize that in this works of hers

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